Ren Zhong Bai
StarHomo sapiens L.
Traditionally used for
- Nose & throat
- Urinary & fluids
- Skin
☯ TCM Properties
Clears Heat and Drains Fire; Resolves Toxicity; Dispels Stasis and Stops Bleeding; Promotes Tissue Regeneration and Heals Sores
Traditional Chinese Uses
Ren Zhong Bai (calcified urine sediment from clay chamber pots, urinary scale) is a cool substance used in Chinese medicine to clear Heat, cool the Blood, and dissolve Blood stasis. It is applied for conditions including nosebleeds, hemoptysis, and oral ulcers from Heat in the Blood, as well as for certain types of throat inflammation. As an unusual substance derived from the mineral deposits of dried urine, it represents the broad scope of materials included in the classical Chinese materia medica.
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Botanical Description
Ren Zhong Bai is the traditional Chinese pharmacopoeial name for the white sediment obtained from long-stored human urine. In classical preparation, urine (preferably from healthy young males) was collected in earthenware vessels and allowed to stand for an extended period; the precipitated salts and amorphous deposit that settled on the walls and base of the vessel were scraped off, sun-dried, and ground. The resulting substance is a light, friable, greyish-white to pale yellow powder consisting chiefly of urinary inorganic salts such as calcium phosphates, urates, and oxalates together with desiccated organic residues; it has a faintly salty, slightly fishy odor. A related and more refined preparation, Qiu Shi, was obtained by further recrystallization. The substance is essentially obsolete in modern clinical practice.
Active Constituents
Calcium phosphate
Inorganic calcium saltConcentration: described in the Chinese materia medica literature as one of the two principal components of the deposit, together with calcium urate; no standardised assay exists
An inert mineral salt with no established pharmacological action at the doses used. Applied topically it acts as a mild abrasive and desiccant powder; taken internally it behaves as a poorly absorbed calcium salt and a weak antacid. It does not account for any of the heat-clearing actions attributed to the drug.
Calcium urate and uric acid
Purine and purine saltPrecipitated from urine as its pH falls during prolonged standing. Pharmacologically inert by mouth in these quantities; it is a marker of the material's origin rather than an active principle.
Calcium oxalate
Inorganic calcium salt (oxalate)One of the salts that precipitate when standing urine turns alkaline. Insoluble and not absorbed; oxalate crystals are locally irritant to mucosa.
Magnesium ammonium phosphate (struvite)
Inorganic phosphate saltForms in alkaline, urease-rich urine, which is to say in urine that has been colonised by bacteria. Its presence in the deposit is direct evidence of bacterial action on the source material.
Calcium carbonate
Inorganic calcium salt (carbonate)Another alkaline-phase precipitate. Like the other carbonate and phosphate salts it is an antacid and is not otherwise active.
Calcium sulfate
Inorganic calcium salt (sulfate)Precipitates in the acid phase of standing urine. Inert.
Ammonium urate
Ammonium salt of uric acidAn alkaline-phase precipitate of stored urine. No established pharmacological activity.
⚠ Drug Interactions
Any concurrent conventional therapy in an immunocompromised patient, and immunosuppressants such as ciclosporin, tacrolimus, corticosteroids or cytotoxic chemotherapy
Ren Zhong Bai is not a plant. It is the mineral deposit scraped from the inner walls of long-used chamber pots and urinals, so the starting material is pooled, anonymous human urine from donors who cannot be identified. Urine is not sterile and is a recognised shedding route for Mycobacterium tuberculosis in renal tuberculosis, for Schistosoma haematobium ova in urinary schistosomiasis, for cytomegalovirus and the BK and JC polyomaviruses, for Leptospira, and for the ordinary urinary pathogens Escherichia coli, Klebsiella and Proteus. The presence of struvite in the deposit is itself proof that urease-producing bacteria acted on the source urine. Any haematuria in a donor, which is common and often unnoticed, introduces blood and with it the risk of HIV, hepatitis B and hepatitis C. A prion risk is theoretical rather than demonstrated for urine, but prions are not inactivated by the temperatures and times used in ordinary autoclaving, let alone by traditional processing. Traditional processing is soaking in changed water for four to seven days, then fifteen days of sun and night dew, or calcination in a covered clay jar in charcoal ash until red through. Red-heat calcination would destroy organic pathogens, but it is neither validated, monitored nor uniformly applied across trade material, and no processing method for this drug has been shown to inactivate the agents above.
Clinical note: Do not dispense. The two safeguards that make every other human-derived therapeutic acceptable, informed donor consent and donor screening, are structurally impossible here: the source is anonymous pooled waste scraped from a shared vessel, so no donor can be traced, tested, questioned or asked. If a patient reports having taken it, treat as a possible exposure to urinary and, where the material was visibly blood-stained, bloodborne pathogens, and screen accordingly. Pu Huang and Bai Mao Gen are the conventional substitutes for the same indications.
Legal and pharmacopoeial status of human-derived materia medica
Ren Zhong Bai is not included in the current Chinese Pharmacopoeia, so there is no official monograph, no identity test, no purity limit and no assay for it; whatever a supplier ships is what the patient gets. The direction of travel for human-derived materia medica in that pharmacopoeia is away from inclusion: Placenta Hominis, Zi He Che, was still an official drug with a monograph in the 2010 edition and was not carried forward into the 2015 edition, on safety and ethical grounds. Outside China, human-derived substances are generally regulated as human tissue or as biologicals rather than as herbal medicines. In Australia they fall under the biologicals framework of the Therapeutic Goods Act, so they cannot be supplied as listed complementary medicines and it is an offence to manufacture therapeutic products from them without the appropriate licence, and human body fluids and tissues are listed in Schedule 6 of the Customs (Prohibited Exports) Regulations 1958 and need a permit to export. The European Union, the United States and Canada likewise handle human-derived material through tissue and biologics regimes rather than through their traditional-herbal-medicine pathways. A practitioner importing, holding or dispensing this material is therefore likely to be outside the law in several jurisdictions regardless of clinical intent.
Clinical note: Check the position in your own jurisdiction before you so much as order it, and expect the answer to be that you may not. There is no pharmacopoeial standard to fall back on and no product liability cover that will follow you into this.
Tetracycline and fluoroquinolone antibiotics (e.g. doxycycline, ciprofloxacin)
The drug is composed almost entirely of calcium and magnesium salts. Divalent cations from calcium salts chelate tetracyclines and fluoroquinolones in the gut lumen and substantially reduce their oral bioavailability; this is a well-established class effect of calcium-containing preparations and applies here on composition grounds, although it has not been studied with this material specifically.
Clinical note: Not a reason to time the doses apart, but a reason not to co-administer at all. The safety objections to this drug stand on their own.
Levothyroxine, oral bisphosphonates and oral iron salts
Each of these is documented to have its absorption impaired by calcium salts taken at the same time. Ren Zhong Bai is predominantly calcium phosphate, carbonate, oxalate, sulfate and urate, so the same mechanism applies by composition, although no study has measured it for this material.
Clinical note: Avoid. Where a calcium effect is actually wanted, use a pharmaceutical calcium salt of known content.
Dosage
| Form | Amount | Frequency | Duration | Population | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| not recommended | Not established — obsolete substance | Daily | — | — | Obsolete. Human urine sediment. No ChP monograph; not dispensed in modern practice on infection-control grounds. Recorded for historical completeness only. |
Historical Texts
Ri Hua Zi Ben Cao
Five Dynasties to early Song (c. 10th century)Ben Cao Gang Mu
Ming dynasty (1596)Ben Cao Jing Shu
Ming dynasty (1625)References
- Lo YT, Yik MHY, Shaw PC. Effective authentication of Placenta Hominis . Chinese Medicine (2018) [DOI]
This information is for educational purposes only and is not intended to replace professional medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider before using any herbal remedy, especially if you are pregnant, nursing, or taking medications.
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